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warcrap · Apr 01, 2008, 02:27 AM // 02:27

has it ever occurred to you that since guild wars 2 will be a fully persistent world it would be nearly impossible for Anet to keep a friendly environment in the entire world probably about 20 Anet gms against millions of players wont end well.
so im thinking Anet can enlist the aid of voluntary moderators who are regular players they can enlist as many as they want and would help stop scammers/hackers/site ads/and idiots who cant seem to control what they say...or type.

requirements for becoming a player mod.
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you must have been an active player for 6 months.

must have less than 2 bans/mutes issued.

must be friendly and helpful to other players.

must be very skilled in reporting rule breakers.

having great online social skills would benefit greatly(not getting into arguments)

must be able to log in at least once a week for more than 2 hours.
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player mods powers and responsibilities
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powers:
you are awarded a silver badge/crown shown on top of your head(you can choose to hide or show it[hiding it can help for those undercover player mods tracking gold sellers])

you are able to mute/ban players for 2 hours.(mutes and bans issued by player mods are reviewed by Anet)

priority alert Anet mods to a specific location where serious rule breaking is taking place by many different players at a time.

you get a private chat channel were you can communicate with other player mods and Anet mods.

you can suspend other players ability to trade for 30 minutes to 3 hours.

you can spy on peoples trades(you may not interfere with it in anyway only look)

you have the ability to recommend a future player mod to Anet.

responsibilities:
stop any suspected trades involving rwt.

mute/ban anybody acting inappropriately (swearing, sexual discussion, asking for personal information including phone number and address)

alert Anet of any serious rule breaking taking place by over 15 players in one area.

mute stalkers, and harassers

help out any new or lost players.

be extremely friendly and not get into arguments or fights with others.

note: nobody may ask or apply for the position of player mod Anet will scout and handpick anybody they feel who is qualified, plus you may choose to not be a player mod if Anet ask you to be one and can resign as player mod whenever you want
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so if you think this would be a great help to ArenaNet please share your thoughts, im sure there would be a fair number of naysayers but I think no matter what anybody says this would be extremely beneficial to ArenaNet in keeping a friendly player environment and upholding the rules.

the kurzick eater · Apr 01, 2008, 03:10 AM // 03:10

people will always have different views on what is ok to do and what is not. for this reason i think that player mods would be a bad idea.

for instance, one player mod could think a word is offensive, but another may not.

if a random person that wasn't anet staff banned me or muted me, id be pretty pissed. its kind of like a friend of a police officer arresting you or something, it just doesn't seem right to me. it reminds me of the movie "Minority Report" if anyone has ever seen that

plus there are always idiots that will hold grudges against people, and anet will never know the player mod's personality enough for that kind of responsibility to be given to them.
... just my 2 cents on this.

Lawrence Chang · Apr 01, 2008, 03:26 AM // 03:26

Bad idea. Sorry, if some person ticks me off, I would simply kick/ban them. Even veterans would abuse this feature, as different people have different judgements/point of views on a situation. These kick/ban reviewed by Anet would cause more trouble and work by Anet themselves, as I would expect them to pile up into their inbox, which would destroy the purpose of loosening the load Anet has to work. They would need to gather evidence and investigate these reports one by one. Your creating random GW policemen that patrol throughout the whole game. Even mature players would like to screw around/break a few rules some point in time. I want to relax and play the game, not worry about who is watching behind my back.

IMO, Guild Wars is already a friendly environment. They already implemented many features that help loosen the amount of GMs they really need. Lets not get to carried away and make this an absolute chaotic place (i.e. thats why i quit playing on private servers for games like WoW, rediculous/retarded GMs that get all cocky for poor judgement).

Macks Mistress · Apr 01, 2008, 03:33 AM // 03:33

Not a huge fan of the idea.

Also if something like this were to happen I'd rather the Mod have no previous bans at all.

Ben-A-BoO · Apr 01, 2008, 04:25 AM // 04:25

Nope sounds like a bad idea to me.
Anyway much to early to see how harshly GW2 must be moderated.

shru · Apr 01, 2008, 05:45 AM // 05:45

Sorry if I missed something here, but can you link me to the statement by Anet saying the entire game will be fully persistent?
and anyway, /notsigned
Game mods typically lead to abuse of power.

Zahr Dalsk · Apr 01, 2008, 06:50 AM // 06:50

Oh yes, 'cause we're just dying to have forum grudges taken intot he game.

Sure, absolutely not signed.

Tosha · Apr 01, 2008, 08:34 AM // 08:34

YESSS. GIMME DA POWWEEERRRRRRRRRR *evil laugh* Nothing I want more than run around and ban/mute players who annoy me

Oh, other players will get that power as well? No, /notsigned in that case. I am the only one who should have such awesome powers.

Holly Herro · Apr 01, 2008, 09:17 AM // 09:17

/not_signed

This isn't runescape.

tmakinen · Apr 01, 2008, 10:40 AM // 10:40

The suggested requirements are altogether too lenient. Anybody getting mod powers should:

have played since the release of the original GW
have a spotless record with ANet (a single ban/warning disqualifies)
be at least 30 years old (don't want kids running around with that kind of power)
be fluent in at least 3 different languages (leetspeak or kitty pidgin don't count)
have a Ph.D. in sciences as a proof of a modicum of intelligence
have army officer training as a proof of capability to control masses and work under pressure
be well enough known to me that I can trust them to do the right thing

I guess that leaves ... me

Omnidragon42 · Apr 01, 2008, 11:33 AM // 11:33

I have a love/hate relationship with player mods, having played games that have them before. It's great when they can report rule breaking, and limited muting or trade suspending would be nice too, but you have to watch for abuse of power.

I got muted for 24 hours by a player mod one time because I killed him in a pk area.

I received another 24 hour mute because I was selling things (shout spamming, basically, but thats how it was done) and didn't reply to the player mod.

As long as they're carefully selected, they can be a great asset, but the temptation to abuse the power is too much.

MithranArkanere · Apr 01, 2008, 12:28 PM // 12:28

Nobody is immune to corruption. If you don't pay them, it's dangerous.
If they have nothing to lose, like a salary, they will lose nothing if they get tired of the game and want to leave 'making a big noise'.
I've seen that a couple of times in forum...

Was easily fixed, but nasty.

jiggles · Apr 01, 2008, 01:50 PM // 13:50

You want to give me the power to kick/ban people and if i do wrong anet will make my power go away?

bring
it
on

skanvak · Apr 01, 2008, 03:54 PM // 15:54

I am against moderator in such game.

There are 2 different thing :

People that break the "agreement" ie the rules set by A.net about relation with real world. This should only be monitored by A.net employee and limited to thing that can be resolved in a real world court.

For other problem, I am for an in game, player run, judicial system. It will be flawn, but if will be RP. This of course would mean that anyone can fight and and damaged any other person.

Quote "an armed society is a polite society"
The problem of GW is that every one feel immunity.

Operative 14 · Apr 01, 2008, 07:24 PM // 19:24

No.

As others have said, no matter how good the intentions of one are, it would still lead to wrongful bans. I'm pretty conservative when it comes to language or statements, so if I were a mod I know I'd punish people for issues that seemed offensive to me but passable to others.

Not to mention forum grudges, ingame grudges, spur of the moment problems, and any other problems that could arise.

Besides, I don't see why it would be any harder than it is now to /report, investigate, and pass judgement.

Tokar Terrius · Apr 01, 2008, 07:49 PM // 19:49

christ the /report system is bad enough, now you want to let people loose with powers like that.

110% /unsigned

HawkofStorms · Apr 01, 2008, 07:57 PM // 19:57

NO

NO some more

NO NO NO NO NO

I get ticked off at message board mods (not these boards of course, you are all angels :-) ) enough for favoritism (looking the other way when friends or "established" people break the rules). I don't need that in a place where I PAY for services. Mods should be paid employees who risk losing their job if they lie/cheat the system. Its to only way to guarantee honesty.

freaky naughty · Apr 01, 2008, 10:31 PM // 22:31

/notsigned I don't want someone equal to me reprimanding me based on his opinion of how I SHOULD play. I want Anet to be the judge of that.

Darkobra · Apr 02, 2008, 12:20 AM // 00:20

It was a terrible idea in Runescape, it's a terrible idea in a much larger, more elitist community.

Fitz Rinley · Apr 02, 2008, 01:37 AM // 01:37

Interesting - but who is going to have time for GW2? We will still be working on GW1 until 2525.